“By not taking care of refugees, we are accomplishing ISIS’ goals:” Refugees welcome in West Michigan

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GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. – In the wake of the terror attacks in Paris, debate continues on federal regulations admitting refugees fleeing Syria and the Middle East. A number of governors, including Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, have already said they will do what they can to block any refugees from resettling in their states.

However, we know the governors’ rhetoric does not trump federal law, which allows refugees into the country using a vetting process.

Tuesday, Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell continued to say that refugees are welcome in Grand Rapids and across West Michigan.

“My position has been and remains that we need to open our arms to welcome these refugees,” said Heartwell.

Meanwhile, Bethany Christian Services continues to aid and house incoming refugees. “It’s a live-saving program,” BCS Refugee Adult and Family Programs Manager Kristine VanNoord told FOX 17

“Refugees flee their first country, go into a second country, and are not able to live viably in that second country,” she said. "Less than one percent of all refugees get a chance at third country resettlement. For those that get that chance at third country resettlement, it’s really a chance at hope and a future: there’s no other option for them."

Of the 180 Syrian refugees resettled in Michigan since April, BCS has resettled 34 Syrians.

“They bring so much to our community. There’s a lot of refugees that have been here for several years that are now owning homes and are starting businesses,” said VanNoord. “They are incredible employees, are paying taxes, and are contributing to our community, our schools.”

BCS first issued a statement that explained the organization’s understanding of Gov. Synder’s concern for safety in calling for examination of refugee screening. Now, BCS reiterates the importance of continuing to house and support incoming refugees.

Though VanNoord said there are no incoming Syrian families entering the Grand Rapids area as of late November, she said, “We are able to continue to receive refugees at this time. Refugees are the most well-vetted group of any visitor that comes to the United States.”

VanNoord told FOX 17 that BCS is confident in the federal government’s vetting process of admitting refugees. It’s a multiple-step screening process involving several federal agencies, and the process can take up to two years.

Mayor Heartwell said he has no doubts about the vetting process.

“I have absolute confidence in that process that the federal government goes through,” said Heartwell. “I don’t have any reason to fear that someone is going to slip through that process, come to Grand Rapids, and commit an act of terrorism.”

Heartwell plans to attend the 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference in Paris. He is leaving for Paris later this week, despite the fact the U.S. Department of State issued a global travel warning for Americans.

“The probability is extremely low” that terrorists would come to the country as refugees, said terrorism expert and GVSU interdisciplinary studies professor Jonathan White. “Right now, we’re deciding everything on a very emotional basis, with very little evidence, a lot of emotion, very little evidence, not a lot of facts."

White said the notion that terrorists would mask themselves as refugees has become a major source of fear that plays right into the hands of what the Islamic State wants. “By not taking care of refugees, we are accomplishing ISIS’ goals, because this is exactly what they want to do: they want to drive a wedge between the Islamic population and the countries of the west."

Pending legislation in Congress calls for extra screenings on Syrian refugees.

Locally, Bethany Christian Services continues to work with West Michigan churches and mosques, including the Islamic Center of Grand Rapids, to aid refugees. VanNoord said BCS is always in need of gently used items and families to be foster care parents and co-sponsors for incoming refugees. BCS will provide training.

If you would like to help, see Bethany Christian Services' website.

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27 comments

  • Rick

    Maybe he should help the homeless veterans in GR first. Liberals like Heartwell always seem to care more about whats happening overseas and not about they’re own backyard.

    • Candace

      I am so sick of the “help the refugees OR help the veterans” rhetoric. This is NOT a veterans vs. refugees debate! This is a matter of helping human beings like you and I who have suffered through and are trying to escape from a HOLOCAUST! No one took in the Jews during WWII and 6 million people were tortured and burned. Now the same thing is happening again and people are getting all up in arms because they don’t want any “dirty brown people” in muh Country.

      Well I have news for you. In case you hadn’t noticed, there is LOTS of help available for veterans already. They get free healthcare for life, (in many cases) disability for life, counseling, support, and life services. Not to mention all the non-government programs out there, charity organizations like Wounded Warrior Project – alliances and networks like VFW, and countless missions, shelters, food pantries, and church and/or community outreach programs, in every community! We ARE helping the veterans, and while I absolutely believe we should be doing EVERYTHING we can to help the people who gave up so much to fight for this country, we CAN ALSO help the refugees.

      I am SO SICK of hearing “oh well why don’t we help the veterans” whenever someone suggest we help the victims of ISIS’s holocaust. It’s just an excuse for racist, xenophobic people relieve themselves of concern about those who are suffering at the hands of terrorists who savagely rape, torture and murder everything in sight.

      • John

        A little tired of this being compared to the Holocaust too. Germany wasn’t advertising what they were doing and it took a lot of people by surprise. At the end of the war the US took in many “Jews”.

  • jerry

    harwell must have his head in his a– lets take care of vets first then the people who need our help here now leave the towel heads in the mid east

  • jerry

    Hartwell must have his head in his a– lets take care of vets first then the people who need our help here now leave the towel heads in the mid east

  • Fun facts

    Stupid politicians , they can’t get anything right. Stop speaking for the rest of us, 65% of the population do not want refugees especially from the Middle East . Bring more decent hard working Mexicans but not Muslims

  • Blank

    Wow what a bias news segment tonight on FOX 17 about Michigan and the Syrian refugees. They forgot to mention that both the FBI and DOD directors say the vetting process is not good enough. Yes most refugees I’m sure are good but all it takes is 10-20 of the 10,000 to carry out something like they did in France.

      • Fester

        The Quran:
        Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
        but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)” (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to “fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you” leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah’s rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word “persecution” by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution – “idtihad” – and oppression – a variation of “z-l-m” – do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, “fitna”, can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned “until religion is for Allah” – ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

        Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

        Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

        Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

        Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).

        Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

        Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

        Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

        Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward ” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

        Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

        Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

        Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

        Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”

        Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah” Some translations interpret “fitna” as “persecution”, but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there – just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah”, meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that “Allah must have no rivals.”

        Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”

        Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

        Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”

        Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”

        Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion’s Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

        Quran (9:14) – “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people.” Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even “healing” the hearts of Muslims.

        Quran (9:20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’s way are of much greater worth in Allah’s sight. These are they who are triumphant.” The Arabic word interpreted as “striving” in this verse is the same root as “Jihad”. The context is obviously holy war.

        Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” “People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam “superior over all religions.” This chapter was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

        Quran (9:30) – “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”

        Quran (9:38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.” This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

        Quran (9:41) – “Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.” See also the verse that follows (9:42) – “If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them” This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

        Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

        Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”

        Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.” How does the Quran define a true believer?

        Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

        Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

        Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

        Quran (21:44) – “We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?”

        Quran (25:52) – “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…” “Strive against” is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context. It’s also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

        Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to “fight in the way of Allah” (3:167) and hence don’t act as Muslims should), those with “diseased hearts” (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and “alarmists” or “agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad’s biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today’s terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah’s eternal word to Muslim generations.

        Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord… So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)… If it had been Allah’s Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost.” Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

        Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,”

        Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means ‘spiritual struggle.’ Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

        Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for ‘hard’ or ‘ruthless’ in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as ‘painful’ or severe’ to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

        Quran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to “battle array” meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.” (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

        Quran (61:10-12) – “O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of ‘Adn – Eternity [‘Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success.” This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

        Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.” The root word of “Jihad” is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include “hypocrites” – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

      • Blank

        The issue of security checks on refugees was called into question by FBI Director James Comey in October, when he told a House committee that checking refugees against a database won’t do anything if the U.S. doesn’t have any data on these refugees.

        “And so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing showing up because we have no record of them,” Comey said.
        http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ag-lynch-contradicts-fbi-on-screening-syrian-refugees/article/2576532

  • Ruth

    A vigilant vetting process? Yeah, right. ‘Hi, are you a terrorist, have sympathies with ISIS, are you part of ISIS or Al-Qaeda? No? OK, welcome to America.

  • Howard F.

    I agree that we need to help people in trouble. It is an unquestionable obligation. However, it is also an unquestionable obligation that we need to insure our own safety first, otherwise the people we help will be no safer here than where they come from. Yes, we have the most stringent security screening of any nation in the world. But that is saying something very different than saying that what we have now is *effective*. Not one politician is claiming that it is effective. Not even President Obama claims that what we are doing is effectively preventing terrorists from entering this country masquerading as refugees.

    That said, there is only one possible course of action that both keeps The US secure as a safe haven for all freedom loving human beings, and at the same time maximizes our ability to help as many people as possible escape the dangerous places of this world. That course of action is first and foremost to quit pussy-footing around this ISIL issue and physically destroy every place they reside. Every city they hole up in. Physically overthrow every country which willingly harbors them. In the meantime, we need to establish quarantine zones for refugees outside of which they can not leave until such time as their secure clearance can be *effectively* guaranteed. That means establishing cities for them in which they can live freely, but in secure isolation from the rest of the US. Places like Detroit can easily be converted into cities like this, and can accomodate large amounts of refugees in comfort and with both freedom and security. With appropriate levels of aggressive action against the locations in which ISIL has established footholds, these refugee cities would only benecessary a short while anyway, and the refugees could return home in short order.

  • Nadir S.

    What everyone needs to remember, refugees and DC politicians alike, is that admission and acceptance are two very different things. The government can admit whoever they want, in whatever numbers they want. But if the people of this country are unwilling to accept them, then they will not be better off here than they were at home. On the contrary, they will be worse off. The USA is no less violent than the Middle East. We are just more subtle about it and publicize it differently. I know. My family is from Lebanon.

      • Fester

        I have, you should read the Koran. Jihad is one of the five pillars.
        The liberals hate Christians and Jews to such a depth they are willing to join goals with ISIS.

        • Commonsense

          If any of these “refugees” end up being an ISIS member and commits a terror act, I have no doubt that Mr. Hartwell will accept full responsibility and his just punishment. He seems to follow the Obama philosophy of being nice to people who want to kill us will make them stop and want to be friends.

  • NO PC FOR ME

    Oh bullshit. Heartwell is just towing the party line. This is the same Heartwell who is a member of Bloomberg’s “mayors against guns” . Do nothing to stop “urban youths” with their stolen guns, nut impose BS laws on legal lawful gun owners.
    Look what has happened to GR under his watch. Rosa parks is no longer safe, Calder plaza isn’t safe after dark.
    And now Heartwell is telling us, that by not allowing un-vetted jihadists into america we are playing into ISIS’s hands ?
    Thats a load of crap! Try walking through Dearborn after 6 pm, I dare you.
    We have one more, one last opportunity to keep terror off american soil. The difference between a moderate Islamist and a radical Islamist is, the moderate will watch the radical chop of heads.
    The next election is Americas last chance.

  • The First Amendment is only possible because of the second.

    What’s like saying “locking your doors at night plays right into the home invaders plans”
    Or keeping you car doors locked plays right into the carjackers hands.
    First the left opens the southern boarder and allows millions of illegals to waltz into OUR country ( and sneaking jihadists with them), they refused to apply the immigration laws already in place. the disarmed the border guards and moved the check points 30 miles inland.
    The democrats are the best allies ISIS could could ever hope for.

    Just one simple question will answer all, has crime became worse or better since “hope and change” ?
    The left allowed the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore by giving the rioters “room to destroy” , what do you suppose the left will allow 200.000 Syrian “refuges” to do?
    And if you dig around on Google you’ll learn the left is deporting Syrian Christians, but allowing Muslims .
    And how about the war on OUR police officers ? the left has clearly abandoned OUR police.

  • Fester

    Russia is doing to ISIS what Obama refused to do. He and Hillary can’t ever say the words “Islamic terrorists”
    This is crazy. do we want terror in our streets ?
    Di you know the Democrats voted “yes” on a resolution supporting BLM ? see who well THATS working ?
    This damn liberal ahenda is going to get us all killed.
    JUST SAY NO to left wing moon-battery

  • Commonsense

    If any of these “refugees” end up being an ISIS member and commits a terror act, I have no doubt that Mr. Hartwell will accept full responsibility and his just punishment. He seems to follow the Obama philosophy of being nice to people who want to kill us will make them stop and want to be friends.

  • Reggie Funkpotato

    If we refuse refugees then any argument that we are a “Christian nation”, becomes completely ridiculous. Same with GOP candidates referring to themselves as “pro-life”.

    Also the whole argument of “taking care of our vets” is a false dilemma.

  • Bob

    X Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell speaks for himself. X Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell was never for west Michigan or the City Of Grand Rapids. I hope the new mayor is able to get the city back on track.