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GRANDVILLE, Mich. -- The owner of Dieseltec in Grandville is calling on his supporters to "secure my home and business" following a massive backlash to comments he made about gay people. 

On Tuesday, Brian Klawiter posted a lengthy statement on his business' Facebook page calling homosexuality immoral and saying he would refuse service to "an openly gay person or persons."  He also offered to give discounts to customers who brought guns into his store.

Following that post, hundreds of people responded both in support and against his statement.   Klawiter said most of the feedback he's received is negative.  A GoFundMe page set up to support him has been removed.

Several said on Facebook that they hoped he would lose business, and some showed up outside Dieseltec to protest Klawiter's comments.

Another Facebook post Thursday morning says "...If you have an opposing view to mine that IS OK, what is NOT OK is threats to kill me, my family and friends; threats to burn down my shop and my home."

 

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78 comments

    • P J Ash

      You got it rose . . . and now the guy cries like a baby because he himself bit off his foot. Shame on him for using Christ to mask his bigotry.

  • Concerned

    This guy has every right to say what he said. BUT nothing that he said accurately reflects Jesus Christ and I hope people do not consider all Christians to be like this guy. We are not!!

  • Mike

    Being Gay is the equivalent of being a porn addict. Both are sexual immoralities according to God. The difference is, the porn addict does their business in the privacy of their home while the person who is Gay does not (generally). Christians love both of these people but is our obligation as a Christian to not endorse or encourage either of the immoralities. It is a God given right of “free” individuals to decide who we want to serve and who we do not. I think those who are Gay “Christians” really ought to examine Leviticus 18:22 where God very clearly indicates his opposition to homosexual behavior.

    • Tim M.

      I’m not Jewish nor are the vast majority of Christians, so what does the Mosaic laws in Leviticus have to do with us?
      It was determined almost 2,000 years ago that within Christianity, you don’t have to follow Mosaic laws – Paul discusses this in his various letters (Roman, Galatians, 1st Corinthians) within the discussion of circumcision.
      And if you want to go with treatment, look at Jesus’ treatment of leapers and tax collectors, the outcasts and despised of the Jewish ‘religious’ (like homosexuals with today’s ‘Christian religious’) – better example of how you should act.

        • Mike

          Also, in response to the Leapers and Tax Collectors, Jesus loved these people but confronted them and forgave them. He did not endorse their “bad” behavior. Hebrews 13:8 says God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The only difference between the Old Testament and New Testament is that Jesus paid the price for all of our sins so we no longer live by the Jewish laws you spoke of. God didn’t suddenly change his mind and say it would be acceptable to fornicate, be a homosexual, or engage in bestiality.

          • michael

            Mike, I’m confused. While I’m familiar with Jesus visiting and talking with tax collectors and lepers, in what way did Jesus confront tax collectors and lepers?? And what bad behavior did the commit??

          • Figserello

            The bible said that Jesus regularly sat down with ‘sInners’. Not people who used to sin, but people who were definied as habitual ‘sinners’, so it doesn’t look like Jesus excluded sinners from his company or judged them. Also, Jesus himself said that so long as you followed his two commandments, you were well covered. Love God above all and love your neighbours as yourself. If you can steal, or covet your neighbours ass whilst still obeying the second one there, you’re a better man than me!

      • Vern

        Mike, you DO realize that Christ stated “he who is without sin cast the first stone”? And you DO understand that? If you don’t, I’ll help you: He meant that we are ALL sinners-you and I and everyone on this planet. He did not put an * behind any of his statement about sin or love or forgiveness and at the bottom of the page have a denotation that says “*Except For Gays”. All of us.

        All you’re doing is chastising something-what you believe is a sin-while you yourself are a sinner. And your sin is just as saddening to Christ as any other sin.

        So instead of judging others, why not realize that none of us are without sin, and let God be the judge? Worry about your own salvation, and stop criticizing others when you yourself are no better than any other sinner.

    • michael

      The bible clearly says: Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
      Please tell me why those who take the position “the bible says…” aren’t advocating this??

        • michael

          You would be correct. The problem with taking such books literally is you really can’t as I’ve demonstrated by posting these passages. Taking particular passages like those against being gay and trying to make a stand on them makes no sense because of everything else that is written in the bible. Its possible its not meant to be read as a book of rules but as a book of parables and Jesus as an example of how a life should be lived.

    • michael

      Mike the bible also clearly states: A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
      If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
      So I’m curious… Do you agree with these passages as well or are you as others that pick and choose which versus of the bible they say all of us should follow?

      • Mike

        While living by the Old Testament law I do believe this was the unwavering payment for the sins given in those passages (often times death was the payment for sin). The difference is that God formed a new covenant with us no longer requiring those sins to be paid in such a manner. He gave Jesus who paid those sins once and for all by being the perfect sacrifice (interestingly his payment for our sins was death in one of the most cruel ways of the time). Through this sacrifice God did not intend for us to forget his laws put forth in the first 5 chapters of the Bible but to keep it in your mind while knowing we no longer needed to pay for the sins the same way. Hebrews 10:1-18 explains this.

    • Devil is watching....

      To all you Christians (especially mike),Take your bible,your hateful speeches,your IGNORANCE,your antiquated ideas and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine.I can’t imagine how people like you ever get through life with braces on your brains.You all are full of dead ideas.The world is moving along without you.You will be left behind with your pitiful,useless,ugly lives……..

    • tim

      Mike, Leviticus also tells us very clearly not to eat fish without fin or scales (no lobster, crab, octopus, shrimp, 11:10-12), not to go to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy (12:4) or 66 days of giving birth to a girl (12:5), not to hold a worker’s wages overnight (your employee must be paid their wages at the end of every day, 19:13), not to mix fabrics in clothing (19:19), and not to trim your beard or the sides of your hair (19:27).

      I hope you are obeying all of these rules.

    • Scott Mark

      Your judging and discriminating in the name of God is driving youth away from religion. Your comments on gay contradict the entire medical community. Your comments on who a business can server contradict the law. I am doubting you went to college

    • mickey

      Mike, I understand what you are getting at, but you seem to be misguided in how you see the bible. First, a sin is a sin I agree with that, and Christ did sit with tax collectors and lepers, but how do you see that as relevant when Christ on a daily basis lived with sinners. He was surrounded by sin, he merely used these examples because they were people whom society deemed sinful and unclean. Lepers were deemed unclean only by site, not by words or action. Second, as for saying “gay christians” should look at Leviticus 18:22 you have already undermined what Christians are called to do. We are called to love each other, doesn’t matter if they are gay, porn addicted, drug users, athiests, theives, it doesn’t matter. The problem with mankind is we forget that we don’t get to make the final judgment on what God sees as sin in another person’s life. There was a guy on one of these blogs from this whole backlash who admitted being gay, going to church and couldn’t change how he felt and lived. His name was Kyle and I don’t know his struggle and can’t begin to think like him, but He admitted it was a sin yet can’t change. Kyle if you are reading this, I want to say thank you because you are the first gay person admitting homosexuality as a sin you struggle with and I may not agree with your sin just like you may not agree with my sin of porn, or swearing or many others I know are sins, yet I struggle with and ask for God’s help and forgiveness. That said, Mike, God does oppose homosexuality but he opposes all sin, and remember that. Jesus hasn’t returned to earth again yet, but the time will come, and when He does, we will have to answer only to Him. By that time the struggles and sin we all deal with may be different. A straight man in 15 years may struggle with homosexuality, a homosexual may be straight and struggle with porn. A porn addict may struggle with cursing, and in 15 years this 3 examples of people may be forgiven by the Grace God gives us and they will all live different God given lives. Fact is we don’t know, and yet people like you who single out people and use the bible to do it are only making issues. I pray you watch how you preach the bible.

  • Jeff Mull

    I really have no trouble with who he wishes to do business with or not. It is his so he may do as he wishes, and good luck to him. But with that being said the trouble I had with it was when I read that a A GoFundMe page had already started a page, ( and than removed) made me fell that he read about the lady in Indy that has gotten over 300,000 plus from a go fund me page. If this was his motivation or not I have no Idea. but it sounded like a fast pay day to me. Because why would someone just one day say hay I want the world to know I will not do work for gay’s, did he have a history or gay coming to him for work?

    • michael

      On the surface it makes some sense to have no issue with whom this guy wishes to do business. But in general its still prejudice which is not ok in this country regardless of who its aimed at. In the end… its still likely he was simply looking for that gofundme payday.

  • James Douglas

    I appreciate his stand however I think it the spirit behind this is a little ungodly. As a Pentecostal Apostolic “Christian” I would serve anyone that came into my business needing service. I would however draw the line if I were asked to modify a car to be the “gay” mobile or if we’re asked to design and install an hood ornament with Steve and Steve etc. through love and kindness have I drawn thee. There are a lot of sins in the Bible some where The Apostles explicitly state not to keep company with even if they are considered to be a brother. I am just saying holiness is holiness and righteousness is righteousness. We have to make sure we’re eating the whole scroll and not just choice fragments. I wonder how welcome would a foul mouth, empty minded, fornicating, adulterer would be if he came in bragging of his exploits amongst the good old boys? Just curious?

    • mickey

      I completely agree with you. I really don’t get why all the sudden he said all this stuff because I’m sure the gay community didn’t sue him for not installing parts. People are entitled to their opinions, however we are supposed to be slow to anger and not cause others to become angry. This is a selfish ungodly act just to make people irritated. Its people like this that make me sad to be a Christian.

      • tnts

        While I will never be sad to be a Christian, I am sad that people do things like this in the name of Christianity. I would much rather live by “judge not lest ye be judged”. I am just as guilty as anyone of occasionally judging others but I would NEVER do what this man is doing. God asks us to treat others as we would like to be treated so does that mean that Dieseltec would like to be judged and discriminated against?? And what’s up with the gun comment? I’m not sure what one thing has to do with the other. This guy does realize that gay people can also be gun owners, right?

        • mickey

          Well said, I am proud to be a Christian but drives me nuts when people don’t think about what they before they say it. I have met some very extreme christians my brother included and they start issues just to stir up controversy. As for the gun comment, again poor timing on his part. I agree that we all have the right to speak out, and had the gay community said something or publicly trashed his company then he could have spoken out. But as for now, I pray he truly considers how his actions affect others. Biblically speaking he needs to tame his tongue and learn a little humility.

    • Diepiriye Sungumote Kuku-Siemons

      So, the Christian mechanic jokes abut living his religious values while claiming that he’d fix a re with all nuts and no bolts. He’d basically try to murder a gay person. WWJD?
      What’s worse, rather than denouncing that hatred, look at how many so-called Christians stand beside this man’s so-called choice NOT to serve the public. If any business does not want to serve the public, then that business should not be allowed to serve any public in this nation.

  • Betty

    First informal most I would not serve a gay couple either not because I hate him but I don’t know what Bible the really not enough because these individuals are very very ill and they need help they were never loved as a child they never communicated with their mother and their father especially that’s why they have no love for a man they’re sick they need help God never said A man and a woman would be together so quit getting God and Bob he has nothing to do with the moral value of a human being that has his own reasons for not wanting to serve gays is nobody’s damn business they don’t pay his bills

  • Paul M

    #1.) I never saw a reference toward Christianity, Good, the Bible, or anything of the sort.
    #2.) One can openly express themselves. Boo Effing Hoo if someone doesn’t like you.
    #.3)Don’t they teach you, “Love yourself, for loving yourself is being comfortable with yourself.”? If your’re comfortable with yourself, others comments and statements regarding their opinions don’t matter, correct? Everyone is different. I don’t care about what sexual gender one prefers, but I would most likely hurt someone of the same gender if they came on to me. That’s my opinion. If you don’t like it, fuck off.
    #4.) Those of you posting negative/aggressive statements, claiming Christianity, and putting down others: Shame on the imposters and hypocrites.
    #5.) This is a reflection of my views and beliefs which are based on the non-biased, non discriminatory Science’s of Psychology, Physics, and Biology. Also reflected are my beliefs of religion based on my research of Theology originated in many different cultures. It is all bullshit .001 hundredth of the truth of what was originally in the Bible 2500 years ago.
    Deuces

    • mickey

      So where did you learn theology, and how much do you actually know? I am a proud Christian but by no means all knowing or a theologian, but if you really looked at the Bible and took into account current issues, all these things have been predicted thousands of years ago. You can argue that the bible has been written in many ways, and it has but the true meaning hasn’t changed. Look at this particular case, God does call us to love each other dispite our sins. If gays are slamming christianity for not accepting them, or vice versa you get the current issues. I don’t agree with homosexuality, I don’t consider it a gift from God like some want you to believe. I believe it is a sin just like addiction to porn, swearing or stealing a cookie. The crucial part is acknowledging and asking for forgiveness from God, not anyone on earth.

  • Jen

    This guy, in his original statement, threatened ” If you want to argue this fact with me, then I will put your vehicle together with all bolts and no nuts and you can see how that works.” He’s willing to place people’s lives at risk because someone has a different opinion than his and when he’s called on it he claims that people didn’t understand what he meant. (His alternative explanation didn’t even make sense.)

    Someone who is willing to place other’s lives in danger because they don’t agree with him is NOT the type of person I’d want responsible for working on vehicles. His sabotage could kill not only the people in the car but anyone else on the street at the time the car falls apart. He doesn’t care who his hatred kills.

    • yup

      Get off the carpet. Think about it. He would not hurt someone his shop does good work and he just put a personal belief out there. At least he has the gut to not be a pasive looser like the rest of those who bitch about life in there closets.

    • Doylesgirl

      I do not think his statement about putting a vehicle together with the nuts and not bolts was meant in the context you took it to be. Nuts and bolt go together like man and woman does.

  • Scam

    Sounds like someone just wants money. After the pizza joint refused to serve gay weddings and made almost a million dollars, it comes as no surprise to me that so many other “patriots” are trying to outdo them.

  • yup

    I think some wording he used could have been better placed but it’s a free country. And people complain about everything. Threats will not do any good just shows stupidity.

  • BFJ

    How about… don’t picket… don’t respond… ignore him… there are other mechanics that will be happy of the business. All this guy wants is for you to GoFundMe so he can cash out. Let his shop fail on its own.

  • ken

    I think he has a right to refuse service to anyone, just like any other business. but, I think using the religion as an excuse is not right. this guy probably doesn’t live a totally “Christian life”. choosing religion “a la carte”. using the bible to validate his personal opinions without acknowledging all the ways in which he is wrong according the same book. he is a successful business owner so he probably is doing well financially. what does that book say about greed , judging others. forgiveness, redemption. maybe some of these folks are right and he’s just looking for good advertising

    • michael

      A business can refuse service to an individual in certain circumstances, however, a business can not refuse service to a person simply because they are considered part of a group. That’s prejudice. I agree with everything else you noted… including he may be just looking for advertising.

  • Rick Banyan

    Many of you are missing the obvious. This guy may have some opinions and actions that others find objectionable. To each his own. The real story here is all of the vile, nasty, threatening commentary the guy is getting from those who are always braying about inclusiveness, diversity, and free speech. There is irony and hypocrisy here.

    • michael

      1. His stated opinion that he will refuse to serve a group of people is not just “to each his own”, otherwise many other prejudices would still be allowed.
      2. It is a stretch to think that the vile, nasty comments are made by those braying about inclusiveness, diversity and free speech. It more than likely simply points out that some people on both sides of this issue could be more considerate and compassionate.

      • tracyd112

        Bottom line he has rights also and he can refuse service to anyone.He could have been quiet and charged them more or not fixed the trouble or just do like a lot of other business keep making things so weak after fixing 1 thing that they need to keep coming back for other things no he does not want to deal with the gays he finds it against his beliefs .Why are his beliefs being neglected but everyone wants theirs to be heard? He is still doing business and will now get more because other people that believe the way he does will go there to get work done as they will not have to be around sick perverted sinners.

        • mickey

          I agree that everyone has rights and a voice to be heard. However the way he approached it by calling the media and starting a firestorm isn’t the way to handle it. As a Christian I believe we are called to stand firm in our faith and we shouldn’t waver on that. But we also are responsible for our actions and words and being diligent so we don’t cause others to sin. This is not solely faith based in my opinion. He involved the media whether it was financial gain/loss or not, and by doing that he had to have known he would cause people to get mad. This in itself is a sin, so how is he any better than the homosexual community, he’s not. It is sad that christianity gets a bad name, but even thousands of years ago when the bible was written it tells us we would be persecuted. We need to hold true to our faith not sin by our actions.

  • tracyd112

    Why not leave the Man and his business alone? He has the right to speak how he feels and his beliefs just as all these sick gays supporters .Just because he dont want to do business with days is his right just as I would not eat in any restaurant they were in or it makes me sick to see the holding hands in a store. It is my life and if I choose not to except them as this business owner has then just stay away why force your sickness on the rest of us that it is morally wrong? We have rights also so LEAVE US ALONE AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO VOICE OUT FEELINGS ALSO just as we dont except you you do not have to respect us but you do need to stay away from us .So leave the Man and his business alone you cannot force him to except you.

    • mickey

      Why not leave it alone? HE DOESN’T WANT YOU TOO. He is getting the attention he wants whether you agree with me or not. So keep it coming
      minus the death threats of course

  • CommonSense

    Can the world be any more “politically correct?” Just where big government wants us! No thoughts, no opinions, just a bunch of robots with no thoughts of our own…

  • Joshua

    I don’t know if the owner will ever see this but I hope to goodness he does! KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING BUD!! STAND YOUR GROUND!!

  • John T. Savage

    The opinions expressed on both sides are moot: you are all literally wasting your breath. The Obama regime has dictated that no citizen has the right to personal conscience, no right to refuse to contribute to sexual perversion, no right to oppose its agenda.

    Grow up: the Bill of Rights is just a piece of paper. The only right American citizens have under the current regime is the right serfs have had in every society: comply with the demands of the state or suffer the consequences.

  • Devil is watching....

    To all of you Christians (especially Mike).Take your bible,your hateful speech,your antiquated ideas,your ignorance,and shove them where the doesn’t shine.I can’t imagine how people like you get through life with braces on your brain.You all are full of dead ideas.The world is moving along without you.Organized religion is faultering in America.You will be left behind with your pitiful,useless,ugly lives………

  • Melvin Perkins

    Still looking for the “massive backlash”. Because I don’t see it anywhere. I see a few people who demand tolerance being intolerant, but that isn’t “massive backlash” it is normal humanity. I see a little corporate and municipal over-reaction, but that isn’t “massive backlash” either, it is normal corporate and political irrationality.

    Frankly, I see massive verbal “harumphing”, but very little action at all. Which leads me to wonder if the man’s actions are really all that out of step with the will of the majority of the people in this community. Not about homosexuality, or even religion, but about the right of a business owner to choose whether to take on a client or not. Do we really need (or want) the government saying that we HAVE TO take on certain clients?

  • Rod

    “What is NOT OK is threats to kill me, my family and friends” is his response. But in HIS statement he would “Put cars back together with nuts but no bolts”. HMMMMM it’s ok for him to use threats against people, their family and friends? MAN what a double standered!!!!!

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